🎙️ My guest today is Diana, she is the co-founder of Bitcoin House Bali and organizer of the Bitcoin Indonesia Conference. She left a corporate life in Germany in 2022, sold her belongings for Bitcoin, moved to Bali, and began rebuilding local Bitcoin adoption through practical education and community infrastructure. In this episode, we look at the realities in Indonesia: bank accounts closed after short inactivity, constant transaction monitoring, restrictions on moving money across islands, and limited financial agency for women. Bitcoin offers sovereignty in that environment. We discuss the role of women in integrating Bitcoin socially, the expansion to 38 meetups across Indonesia, and the aim of decentralizing leadership. We also cover lessons from running a national conference under bureaucratic pressure, and what it means to work in a place where censorship and instability are already visible.
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We talked about:
00:00 - Coming Up…
01:10 - Introduction to Diana
03:40 - Starting Bitcoin House Bali
10:10 - Ad Break: Trezor & BitVault
11:34 - How Diana Educates Locals
14:14 - How Bitcoin Helps Protect People & Human Rights
20:00 - Encourage Women to Join Bitcoin
25:29 - Ad Break: Abundant Mines & Expat Money
27:42 - Lessons from Organizing a Conference
32:00 - Future Vision for Bitcoin in Indonesia
36:00 - Personal Lessons From Diana’s Journey
39:20 - Efrat on the Changing Financial System
41:20 - Quickfire Questions & Closing Thoughts
My takeaways from this episode:
Diana recounts leaving a comfortable corporate life in Germany after realizing material success did not equal autonomy or meaning
She sold her belongings for Bitcoin and moved to Bali to search for places where Bitcoin is used as a living financial system rather than a speculative asset
She discovered that Indonesia’s banking system imposes strict monitoring, routinely closes inactive accounts, and limits people’s ability to move their own funds, especially across islands
Women in Indonesia face additional constraints, including social and financial dependence on husbands or fathers, making sovereignty a deeply practical need rather than a philosophical one
Bitcoin House Bali was created as a physical safe space where anyone can learn, ask questions, touch hardware, make mistakes, and avoid scams, with a clear cultural boundary: “No shoes, no shitcoins”
Diana emphasizes that most Bitcoin conferences benefit foreigners rather than locals, so the focus shifted to ongoing, local-first education instead of one-off events
The movement now supports 38 monthly meetups across Indonesia, with community leaders who run events, libraries, and study groups customized to local needs
A key goal is decentralization: communities should become self-sufficient rather than waiting for guidance from Bali or external organizers
Diana highlights that women bring relational and social integration skills, essential for embedding Bitcoin into daily life, family structures, and local culture
Organizing a national conference revealed the extent of bureaucratic pressure, new visa categories, and power brokers around major gatherings, exposing who is genuinely aligned with grassroots adoption and who is not
Both of us reflect on how defending sovereignty in practice changes a person: seeing the “cracks in the matrix” removes naivety and builds resilience
We look ahead to a global environment where financial surveillance intensifies, digital currencies expand state control, and Bitcoin becomes not just a tool for savings, but a lifeline for autonomy and dignity
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